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I Can’t Say It Enough…

…good estate planning requires advice from more than one discipline.

I was talking this morning with a friend of mine who is an estate planner.  I haven’t known him for a long time, but I like his approach, and I think it differentiates him from other financial planners I’ve known, because he’s got a passion that you can’t really fake, and it is clearly about doing the right thing for the client.  In this case, it means that he spends a considerable amount of time helping clients protect what they already have before he talks to them about using the wealth they have to accumulate more to fund whatever their end goal is.

I’ve been doing this long enough to understand that not everyone is wealthy, but I think that most people want to build what wealth they have.  Sure, some people have come to see me about their estate planning because they have gotten the bad news from a doctor, and that distant inevitability is now an impending certainty.  A holistic approach is probably not foremost in their minds, but an awful lot of people I’ve represented have more wealth than they think they do, and when we sort that out as part of the process, it often requires consulting with other professionals.  Granted, if we’re doing the estate planning because someone has stage four cancer, then we aren’t likely to be talking with them about life insurance, but we might be talking with them about brokerage accounts, 401(k)s, individual retirement accounts, and their interests in closely-held corporations and LLCs, which means that we will be talking  about transfer-on-death or payable-on-death designations on accounts, and how those designations can impact their estates, which means that we will be talking with their financial planners.  We will be talking about potential tax consequences for various potential courses of action, which means that we will be talking with CPA’s and accountants.  And sometimes, I even end up talking to representatives of charities about gifts that clients want to make.  When I am doing this for the clients who know that they aren’t long for this world, I’m not just sad for the client’s approaching demise.  I’m sad for the opportunities that they lost by not acting sooner.  Sometimes, this is because of procrastination, and sometimes, it’s because people don’t understand that estate planning shouldn’t be a mass of disjointed pieces, but a comprehensive plan, focused on the goals they rate as most important, and executed with a series of coordinated steps which have been considered and mapped out with the assistance of a team of professionals who want to help them succeed.  Once I help clients to fully understand this approach, I don’t often end up having  conversations about cost, because they understand that compared to the return they can achieve, the cost is minimal.

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The Bad News Is…

One of the things that law school didn’t really prepare me for was the clients who you can’t help.

When I first started practicing law, I was eager to help clients and potential clients, and there was one who stands out in my memory as the first one I couldn’t help.  He had cosigned on a car for a relative, who had defaulted, and he came to see me, because the bank had come calling on him.  I saw nothing in the documents or the circumstance he described that would permit me to be of any meaningful assistance, but I was slightly worried that he might try to hurt me after I told him that I couldn’t help him.

He was very deliberate as he pushed back from the table, and left the room, never saying a word, and his jaw set like a rock.  After my initial relief at not having to dodge a punch or three wore off, I recall thinking “Well, that’s one person whom I’ll never see again.”

But I was wrong.

Before I moved on from that firm, the man came back to see me two more times.  The next time I met with him, he had a contract he wanted me to review before he would decide whether or not to sign it.  I was delighted that he consulted with me first.  I read through the document, noted a few points that I though he should be aware of, which prompted him to tell me that he was going to think about it before deciding to sign or not.  After wrapping up my notes, I looked up and said “Can I ask you something?”

He smiled and said “Let me guess.  You want to know why I came back.”

I nodded my head and said “Yes.  I could tell you were pretty upset when you left last time.”

He laughed and said “You’re not wrong, but I will tell you that I wasn’t upset with YOU.  In fact, I liked the way that you didn’t sugar coat it, even though you didn’t like telling me that there was nothing you could do.  You were honest with me, you didn’t waste my time, and you told me what I did wrong without making me feel stupid.  I knew I had found someone I could trust, and that makes you worth the money you charge.”

I saw him one more time, when I wrote a Will and powers of attorney for him.  Again, he expressed his thanks for the straightforward advice, and the no-nonsense approach.  I still think of him often, because I still encounter people whom I can’t help.  I won’t say that it’s easier telling clients this now than it was then, but I find that by trying to be respectful of their time, and by trying to not make them feel stupid because they made a mistake, I give them something of value, even if it was only allowing them to leave with the dignity they had when they walked in to my office.  Not everyone reacts well to such news, but I have managed to keep a few of them as clients because I approached their problems in this manner, which turns a negative into a much larger positive.

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Will or Trust? A Decision, Not Dilemma.

When I am doing estate planning for clients, often my biggest obstacle is someone I’ve never met.  That person is “My Buddy…”

I’ve discussed this person with attorneys who practice in other areas of law, and surprisingly enough, “My Buddy…” has often contributed free advice to their clients as well.  And as with my clients, the advice given to their clients by “My Buddy…” is usually worth every penny.

That said, I don’t worry about it too much.  Sometimes it means having to take a few extra minutes to explain things, and maybe draw some diagrams outlining various options and outcomes, but I know that I’m lucky in this respect.  “My Buddy…” better hope that some of the family law attorneys I know never catch up to him, because his advice has made their jobs exponentially more difficult, especially since in the context of divorce cases, clients frequently put a lot more weight on the advice and counsel of “My Buddy…”  than they do on that provided by their own attorney.  In the context of estate planning, “My Buddy…” often has often told my clients that they need to have a trust, so they can “avoid probate”.  I don’t encounter this as much as I used to, but occasionally, I still take an appointment with someone swayed by “My Buddy…” and his bar stool lawyering, or worse yet, someone who was taken in by the smooth sales pitch of a “trust mill” in the 90’s, and has a nice looking binder full of tabs, separating various documents, which often fail to accomplish what the owner believes they were told they would when they hired a fly-by-night outfit to prepare a cookie-cutter set of documents, dress them up in a nice package, and then do zero follow-up, ensuring that an expensive package prepared to “avoid probate” ends up…going through probate.

Because of “My Buddy…” (or trust mills), I frequently meet with people who announce early on in the appointment that they need to have a trust, so they can avoid probate.  When this occurs, I usually put my pen down, look them in the eye, and ask them why that is.  Sometimes, they explain that they need to avoid probate because it is a horrible and time-consuming process.  Sometimes, they can’t tell me why, but they are certain that this is true.  And sometimes, they believe that it will result in a tax savings when they pass away.  Depending on the client’s response to the first question, my reply is some variation of the following:

I’m not sure what state you may have lived in prior to Washington, but here, probate is not a big deal.  The process is fairly streamlined, and if the heirs all get along, don’t burn the estate down fighting over it, and there aren’t any oddball assets creating valuation issues, or other items that are out of the ordinary, the estate can be wrapped up in 6 or 7 months, and it really can be done fairly inexpensively (at which point I quote a price range that is much less than the tale of lamentation relayed to them by “My Buddy…”. Probate also has certain statutory mechanisms that can allow you to legally cut off certain claims against the estate after a set period of time which are not available with trusts.

As for tax savings, if your estate is large enough to meet the state or federal estate tax thresholds, there may be some ways to achieve tax savings without bothering to prepare a full-fledged trust agreement, and going through all the effort necessary to complete transfers to the resulting trust so it accomplishes the goal of avoiding probate.

At this point, I ask them a series of questions to determine if there is a good reason, or a need for a trust agreement, rather than a Will.  If they own real estate outside the state of Washington, then they should consider a trust agreement, most likely a revocable living trust, to own that real property, in order to  avoid the need to go through probate in the state were the real estate is located, as well as in Washington.  If their estates are large enough to meet the state and or federal estate tax thresholds, then a trust agreement may be appropriate, although they may be able to achieve tax savings with a trust will.  If they have heirs who have disabilities and who receive state or federal assistance, then we may discuss a special needs trust or a supplemental needs trust in order to avoid disqualifying that heir for further assistance with an outright inheritance.  If they own a business, or several businesses, then there may be reasons to consider a trust agreement, especially if not all the intended heirs are interested in owning or running the business. And if they are just very private people, and they do not want the descent and distribution of their estate to be part of the public record (even through much of the financial data is no longer submitted into the court record), then a trust agreement of some type might be the best option for them.

That said, much of the value of working with an attorney to do your estate planning instead of relying on the dubious advice of “My Buddy…”, or worse yet, a form service like Legal Zoom, is that a good attorney should ask a lot of questions, so he or she can be certain of preparing the right documents in the correct manner to accomplish your intended goals, AND the attorney should then be following up, so that assets are properly transferred.  This helps to prevent a surviving spouse or heirs from facing the added burden of learning that documents were not correctly prepared, and they have to take actions they never intended.  And if your estate is complicated, or has a tax problem, a good attorney will also work with your accountant or CPA to make sure that the course of action you choose makes sense financially, and if it doesn’t, you are made aware so you can make an informed decision.  Working with an attorney on estate planning may end up costing a little bit more than just buying some forms, or drafting your own with the assistance of “My Buddy…”, but the peace of mind is worth every extra cent paid.

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Initiative 594’s Inheritance Trap

I-594 isn’t just a compounding of previous violations of the Second Amendment, it is also fraught with traps for the unwary, including one for those who inherit pistols. The language in question is as follows: (4) This section does not apply to: (g) A person who (i) acquired a firearm other than a pistol by the operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the firearm of (ii) acquired a pistol by operation by operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the pistol within the preceding sixty-day period, the person must either have lawfully transferred the pistol or must have contacted the department of licensing to notify the department that he or she has possession of the pistol and intends to retain possession of the pistol in compliance with all federal and state laws. This means that as part of the probate process, the Personal Representative/Administrator of the estate and the attorney need to determine as soon as possible if the deceased owned pistols.  If no one checks, and the designee or heir takes possession without following these steps, then they have broken the law…even if it is the spouse of the deceased.  What can make an error a travesty is that the transfer or notification to the Department of Licensing must take place for every pistol that is acquired, meaning that if someone inherits more than one pistol, and doesn’t follow these steps, they may now be convicted of a misdemeanor for the first pistol, and a felony for each subsequent one. As a practical matter, if you are actually planning ahead, and you want to leave your pistols to someone, you should probably discuss this requirement with the intended recipient, and put language in your Will requiring your Personal Representative to make sure that these steps are followed, and to name a backup recipient if your first choice cannot pass a background check, or has had their concealed weapons permit revoked.

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Planning Prevents Probate Problems

There are some things in life that you don’t get to “do over”.  Estate Planning can be one of those things.

I understand that people are reluctant to consult with attorneys because they are concerned about the cost.  And the internet has made us all experts in things we know nothing about (and I am sometimes as guilty of this as the next person), but as a friend and colleague of mine is fond of saying “Law is not a DIY project.”, and nowhere is this more true than in the area of estate planning.

In over a decade of practicing law, I have gotten to deliver the bad news to surviving spouses, adult children, and even grandchildren that their recently deceased loved one’s brilliant idea to save money by finding a form Will on the internet will instead cost them money, and in some cases, ends in a much different result than intended.  That is one of the things about my job that is not much fun.

I recommend that everyone has a Will, and that they have an attorney help them prepare it.  I don’t care if you’re single with no children.  I don’t care if your children have grown, and your spouse is deceased.  I don’t care if you have children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren.  If you own anything, you should have a Will, because even if you don’t own real estate, and your estate is small enough to dispose of with an Affidavit of Successor, you should have a Will, if only to make it clear to your friends and family who you want to have in charge and who you want to inherit your possessions.  But if it is worth doing, it is worth doing right.  Washington doesn’t have complicated rules regarding Wills and Codicils, but failing to satisfy the requirements set forth in the statutes may result in a document that is invalid, or that has to be authenticated, sometimes years after the fact, before a Court will admit the Will to the probate. And if your Will is invalid, then your estate will be distributed according to statute, rather than the way you intended and set forth in the Will.

I understand that cost is an issue for people.  I am sensitive to this concern.  But I’ve also had to sit in a conference room with grieving family members and explain that the Will that someone got on the internet is invalid, and because of statutory succession, a family member that wasn’t intended to get a portion of the estate will now inherit a share, and that the probate process itself is going to be longer and more expensive because without a Will, the Court will be involved with every decision the Administrator will make.   And because many people make a Will, and never again think about it, there is often no “do over”, because once the Testator dies, the Will cannot be changed.  If you love your family enough to plan ahead, please, love them enough to do it correctly.

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